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		<title>By: Kae Verens</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/10/20/lets-begin-again-robots/comment-page-1/#comment-110084</link>
		<dc:creator>Kae Verens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gno, that&#039;s actually almost exactly how I&#039;m doing it now. &lt;a href=&quot;http://verens.com/archives/2008/11/22/hooking-up-with-an-sd21/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in this article&lt;/a&gt; I talked about some more steps I took. I have the chassis built for my robot now. it&#039;s 9cm x 12cm, using a USB-to-I2C connection to pass commands to the bot. There is an RC version of the USB-to-I2C connection available so when I&#039;m happy with how the bot is working, I can totally disconnect all wires.

I&#039;m waiting for a small model tank to arrive in the post, so I can salvage the tracks. After that, I&#039;m adding a servo-controlled scissors and then I need to find a wireless camera that sends in I2C so I can use one common communication technology instead of a load of separate ones.

An advantage to the desktop/mothership idea is that I can build a large laptop robot, which carries smaller slave bots around with it and disgorges them to do precise tasks that a larger bot would find difficult or cumbersome. The laptop would be the brain for the smaller bots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gno, that&#8217;s actually almost exactly how I&#8217;m doing it now. <a href="http://verens.com/archives/2008/11/22/hooking-up-with-an-sd21/" rel="nofollow">in this article</a> I talked about some more steps I took. I have the chassis built for my robot now. it&#8217;s 9cm x 12cm, using a USB-to-I2C connection to pass commands to the bot. There is an RC version of the USB-to-I2C connection available so when I&#8217;m happy with how the bot is working, I can totally disconnect all wires.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m waiting for a small model tank to arrive in the post, so I can salvage the tracks. After that, I&#8217;m adding a servo-controlled scissors and then I need to find a wireless camera that sends in I2C so I can use one common communication technology instead of a load of separate ones.</p>
<p>An advantage to the desktop/mothership idea is that I can build a large laptop robot, which carries smaller slave bots around with it and disgorges them to do precise tasks that a larger bot would find difficult or cumbersome. The laptop would be the brain for the smaller bots.</p>
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		<title>By: Gno</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/10/20/lets-begin-again-robots/comment-page-1/#comment-110076</link>
		<dc:creator>Gno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t you just use your desktop for the &quot;brain&quot; and use WiFi/Bluetooth to communicate. Sensory input is sent to the PC/brain, motors are actuated from the PC/brain. Saves weight, power, and massively opens up the possibility of using off the shelf AI software for object recognition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you just use your desktop for the &#8220;brain&#8221; and use WiFi/Bluetooth to communicate. Sensory input is sent to the PC/brain, motors are actuated from the PC/brain. Saves weight, power, and massively opens up the possibility of using off the shelf AI software for object recognition.</p>
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		<title>By: Kae Verens</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/10/20/lets-begin-again-robots/comment-page-1/#comment-108812</link>
		<dc:creator>Kae Verens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Aaron - when I have a bit of spare cash I&#039;ll try get in contact with them and see if they had any better luck than me.

I spoke with a guy in Trinity College who worked with them as well, and he had the same problem as me - he had to order directly from the American site, meaning that you&#039;re not just paying for the board, you&#039;re paying a huge P&amp;P price as well.

The day that some crowd starts selling Gumstix in Ireland/UK, I&#039;ll be a happy man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Aaron &#8211; when I have a bit of spare cash I&#8217;ll try get in contact with them and see if they had any better luck than me.</p>
<p>I spoke with a guy in Trinity College who worked with them as well, and he had the same problem as me &#8211; he had to order directly from the American site, meaning that you&#8217;re not just paying for the board, you&#8217;re paying a huge P&#038;P price as well.</p>
<p>The day that some crowd starts selling Gumstix in Ireland/UK, I&#8217;ll be a happy man.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Mc Adam</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/10/20/lets-begin-again-robots/comment-page-1/#comment-108811</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Mc Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey there Kae

The Computing Society here is looking into using those Gumstix chips to build a helicopter controlled with a xbox 360 controller, they might have some useful resources for you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey there Kae</p>
<p>The Computing Society here is looking into using those Gumstix chips to build a helicopter controlled with a xbox 360 controller, they might have some useful resources for you</p>
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		<title>By: Kae Verens</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/10/20/lets-begin-again-robots/comment-page-1/#comment-107971</link>
		<dc:creator>Kae Verens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s crazy item #556 in a series of #6567

to know where it is, it could use a combination of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GPS&lt;/a&gt; to get a general position (accurate to about 15M) and &lt;a href=&quot;http://cricket.csail.mit.edu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cricket&lt;/a&gt; for higher precision.

you teach the difference between plants using a neural network. here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://verens.com/demos/picture.recogniser/distributed.training/picture.recogniser.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a simple javascript version&lt;/a&gt; which learns the difference between grass and concrete (eventually! - may seem easy to us, but is not easy for a computer). the same code can be used to learn the difference between dandelion and onion, for example.

I was envisioning having a &quot;base station&quot; - a &quot;box&quot;, maybe, which had the necessary power sockets and could do handy things like maybe empty out any gathered rubbish, etc.

point #3 involves lots of plastic bags ;-)

There /is/ a lot of work involved, but i think it&#039;s worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s crazy item #556 in a series of #6567</p>
<p>to know where it is, it could use a combination of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System" rel="nofollow">GPS</a> to get a general position (accurate to about 15M) and <a href="http://cricket.csail.mit.edu/" rel="nofollow">Cricket</a> for higher precision.</p>
<p>you teach the difference between plants using a neural network. here&#8217;s <a href="http://verens.com/demos/picture.recogniser/distributed.training/picture.recogniser.html" rel="nofollow">a simple javascript version</a> which learns the difference between grass and concrete (eventually! &#8211; may seem easy to us, but is not easy for a computer). the same code can be used to learn the difference between dandelion and onion, for example.</p>
<p>I was envisioning having a &#8220;base station&#8221; &#8211; a &#8220;box&#8221;, maybe, which had the necessary power sockets and could do handy things like maybe empty out any gathered rubbish, etc.</p>
<p>point #3 involves lots of plastic bags <img src='http://verens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There /is/ a lot of work involved, but i think it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/10/20/lets-begin-again-robots/comment-page-1/#comment-107970</link>
		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that has to be the craziest thing that I have ever herd you say!

I think it&#039;s impossibl... But then again I don&#039;t know much about robots.. You would need a team of people to design the software alone. How could you teach a robot to recognize different plants?

I think that your biggest problem there would be the lack of a garden with plants Kae! Anyway it would need to have a couple of things to really work...

1. It would have to recognize where it is, so that it doesn&#039;t go into your neighbours garden... Maybe that could be achieved by connecting it to your wi-fi. This would make it possible in the future to control it via the Internet.. Instead of using a remote you could use your laptop, even if your not at home!

2. It would have to be able to recharge itself via an outside plug, to be soely indipendant.

3. It would need to be both waterproof and wind resistant... In case it gets blown over.

As I said in my opinion it would require a hell of a lot of work to function decently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that has to be the craziest thing that I have ever herd you say!</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s impossibl&#8230; But then again I don&#8217;t know much about robots.. You would need a team of people to design the software alone. How could you teach a robot to recognize different plants?</p>
<p>I think that your biggest problem there would be the lack of a garden with plants Kae! Anyway it would need to have a couple of things to really work&#8230;</p>
<p>1. It would have to recognize where it is, so that it doesn&#8217;t go into your neighbours garden&#8230; Maybe that could be achieved by connecting it to your wi-fi. This would make it possible in the future to control it via the Internet.. Instead of using a remote you could use your laptop, even if your not at home!</p>
<p>2. It would have to be able to recharge itself via an outside plug, to be soely indipendant.</p>
<p>3. It would need to be both waterproof and wind resistant&#8230; In case it gets blown over.</p>
<p>As I said in my opinion it would require a hell of a lot of work to function decently.</p>
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		<title>By: Kae Verens</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/10/20/lets-begin-again-robots/comment-page-1/#comment-107709</link>
		<dc:creator>Kae Verens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol! exactly. In fact, Wall-E is almost perfect as a model for this. The point is to build a robot which can multi-task and do whatever needs to be done to clean-up after us, and eventually hopefully to cater for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol! exactly. In fact, Wall-E is almost perfect as a model for this. The point is to build a robot which can multi-task and do whatever needs to be done to clean-up after us, and eventually hopefully to cater for us.</p>
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		<title>By: jase</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/10/20/lets-begin-again-robots/comment-page-1/#comment-107708</link>
		<dc:creator>jase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest something that looks like this...
http://blogs.govexec.com/fedblog/images/wall-e.jpg

;-)

Back on track though, can you abuse a Roomba? to get what you need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest something that looks like this&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://blogs.govexec.com/fedblog/images/wall-e.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.govexec.com/fedblog/images/wall-e.jpg</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://verens.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Back on track though, can you abuse a Roomba? to get what you need?</p>
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