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	<title>Comments on: persistent web apps in PHP</title>
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	<description>php, linux, ajax, javascript, kae verens</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kae Verens</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/01/31/persistent-web-apps-in-php/#comment-82635</link>
		<dc:creator>Kae Verens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting. how do you define "a real language"? what about Java? or is that not "a real language"? is "a real language" defined as "whatever I'm using right now, and nothing else"?

one person I know looks on everything that I do with disdain. he hates PHP, hates JavaScript, and hates anything which is not written exactly the way he would write it. when writing PHP, he insisted the only way to write anything was through the Zend framework (which meant that the simplest things take days to write). when writing Java, he insists that anyone that is not using MVC is an idiot.

My own personal opinion is that every language has it's pros and cons. PHP is great for me because I find it very comfortable and I have never found a project that I couldn't solve with it. obviously that argument would not be right for you, and I'm okay with that - use whatever you like, as long as it works.

this blog is about PHP, JavaScript, and some other stuff. I don't write about languages that I don't work with. if you don't like PHP, then don't use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting. how do you define &#8220;a real language&#8221;? what about Java? or is that not &#8220;a real language&#8221;? is &#8220;a real language&#8221; defined as &#8220;whatever I&#8217;m using right now, and nothing else&#8221;?</p>
<p>one person I know looks on everything that I do with disdain. he hates PHP, hates JavaScript, and hates anything which is not written exactly the way he would write it. when writing PHP, he insisted the only way to write anything was through the Zend framework (which meant that the simplest things take days to write). when writing Java, he insists that anyone that is not using MVC is an idiot.</p>
<p>My own personal opinion is that every language has it&#8217;s pros and cons. PHP is great for me because I find it very comfortable and I have never found a project that I couldn&#8217;t solve with it. obviously that argument would not be right for you, and I&#8217;m okay with that - use whatever you like, as long as it works.</p>
<p>this blog is about PHP, JavaScript, and some other stuff. I don&#8217;t write about languages that I don&#8217;t work with. if you don&#8217;t like PHP, then don&#8217;t use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peufeu</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/01/31/persistent-web-apps-in-php/#comment-82628</link>
		<dc:creator>Peufeu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, but then why not use a real language like Python (or even Ruby), which already has available open-source stateful web frameworks, and is miles ahead of PHP in every respect (power, ease, reliability, quality of language code, quality of libraries, quality of available open source code, etc) ? The only advantage of PHP is easily hacking some web pages thanks to webserver integration...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, but then why not use a real language like Python (or even Ruby), which already has available open-source stateful web frameworks, and is miles ahead of PHP in every respect (power, ease, reliability, quality of language code, quality of libraries, quality of available open source code, etc) ? The only advantage of PHP is easily hacking some web pages thanks to webserver integration&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kae Verens</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/01/31/persistent-web-apps-in-php/#comment-81687</link>
		<dc:creator>Kae Verens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well I'm thinking of writing the logic for my robot using this idea. it may be tricky because there is no documented threading support in PHP, but that can be gotten around with some creative sockets-based work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well I&#8217;m thinking of writing the logic for my robot using this idea. it may be tricky because there is no documented threading support in PHP, but that can be gotten around with some creative sockets-based work.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Mc Adam</title>
		<link>http://verens.com/archives/2008/01/31/persistent-web-apps-in-php/#comment-81458</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Mc Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That seems like a really good idea! It'd be interesting to see what's possible with it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seems like a really good idea! It&#8217;d be interesting to see what&#8217;s possible with it..</p>
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